Well you did ask…
After reading your post, I’d say no, you’re not necessarily sexist as such but you do make some generalisations about your own gender which I think are a bit unfair.
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I thought I’d respond to brother Naeem’s post because I’d actually read that article when it was published, although I came across it in the Daily Mail and not The Times (ahem, that probably doesn’t reflect well on me
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The writer, Ms. Lewis, is a playwright going into her late thirties and questioning the feminist principles which her mother championed and imbued her with. Now that her career leaves her feeling empty and unfulfilled, she tells us that women can’t “have it all” (meaning a career and a family life) and that we have an innate homemaking instinct which means our happiness lies with a baby on the hip and dough in the hand. She admits to having had an attitude of ruthlessly pursuing her career and deliberately sacrificing a family life in favour of living up to her feminist “ideals” and now she feels that was a mistake.
We’ll get back to her later but let’s see what brother Naeem had to say first…
Men like their women to stay at home.
There. I said it. Congratulations are in order.
I think it’s a valid opinion and I’m sure it’s true for many men but it’s still a generalization and its veracity in terms of describing the majority would depend on geographical location, age, educational level and social class of the men we consider. If we’re talking about Muslim men in the “West” and of a blogging generation, then I still think it depends on too many things for a sweeping generalization to be meaningful.
But brother Naeem doesn’t leave us much room to disagree:
Ladies, if you believe your DH when he tells you otherwise, then you’ll probably believe me when I tell you that the Tooth Fairy has a crush on Santa – well, maybe not a real crush, it’s more like puppy love.
Come on now, everyone generalizes but none of us can seriously claim to speak for half the world’s population simply because we share the same reproductive organs as them, and nor can we reject opinions or experience that are contrary to ours as something that would only be accepted by the kind of gullible women who are satisfied with a solemn “no” when they ask “Does my bum look big in this?”
The female readers who would have objected with protests of “Well actually my husband doesn’t feel that way; he is perfectly happy with me working and having a life outside the home, and we still have a good family life despite my career!” have just been dismissed in one broad sweep. Very clever brother Naeem, but it doesn’t wash because those men do exist and I spoke to one just yesterday.
Me: Do you think it’s true that all men want their women to stay at home rather than go out and work?
Specimen A: No.
Me: What about you?
Specimen A: I wish my wife would go out and get a job!
Me: Erm,
…But isn’t it true then that men want to take pride in being the breadwinner and feel undermined by a woman earning, especially if it’s more than him? As a man don’t you feel your role is as the protector and maintainer and she should be at home?
Specimen A: Well it depends. I want my wife to work because I know she’ll get depressed being at home, so I think it’d be better for her to be kept busy and productive, we don’t have kids yet so that’s not an issue. So I guess it depends on the particulars of the situation. If she had a bad attitude about it, as in “I don’t need you, I have my own money, I can do what I like, I can look after myself” and then sort of held that against the husband, any guy would take issue with that.
Me: What about if you did have kids?
Specimen A: Kids need attention and looking after, I’d prefer her being at home after we had kids, maybe working part-time or in some other flexible way once they’re school age?
I’m certain Specimen A was being honest, and we also got into a conversation about buying a house and the complexities surrounding that, which I think relates to a point brother Naeem made about some women working to increase the combined income for the family. I guess this is where it gets tricky, because if the wife is working from a percieved “need” for the family, then maybe that impinges on the husband’s role as being the provider and maintainer. However, I don’t think this needs to be an issue.
I don’t know about brother Naeem but I come from the kind of social bracket where mother’s working is a norm, despite them coming from very traditional families and taking the culture of staying at home very seriously as 1st generation immigrants, many women still worked from home, or did even take that step of working outside the home. This generation of working class immigrant mothers became seamstresses, dinner ladies, factor workers and so on or assisted in family businesses or shops. It was simply a reality of life that although the husbands worked and paid bills and so on, the women needed to work also to alleviate the financial burdens on the usually large families.
The mothers could have chosen not to work, but then the stress of the financial difficulties would have been squarely on the husband alone and that would have taken its toll on the whole family and they would have all suffered. Does it make the husband less of a man? No, I don’t think it does, because how can it be his fault if the average wage of one man is not sufficient to cover the living costs of his family? If he is doing his best to fulfil his responsibilities, but the family could still do with the extra help from the woman’s income, if it is acceptable to her and doesn’t cause neglect of the children, then why not? A man shouldn’t be made to feel small about it.
Even with our generation of educated young professionals, if a man graduates and gets a job earning £20k and then gets married and moves out of his family home to start renting and his wife stays at home; he has no chance of purchasing his own home anytime soon. Most of his earnings will be going on rent, bills, council tax, food, car and so on. Even if he scraped to save up for a deposit over a good number of years, he’d be looking at a huge mortage since a modest home here costs around £100k (just under now because of the recession). Yes, he can maintain and provide, but if they are looking to buy a stable family home for their future and so they can be settled when they have children, having an extra income which can simply be saved toward a house fund would be valuable.
The only couples I know with their own homes were helped by their parents, either because they lived with them at first and saved up, or because their parents bought them a house, or they both work and have a hefty mortgage, and that is something many practising Muslims want to avoid. Even Islamic mortgages are painfully expensive and unjust, even moreso than conventional ones, which completely misses the point of why usury is forbidden. And I’m not talking about people who approach finances from the perspective of keeping up with the neighbours, but simply being able to buy a modest home.
My point being that even today educated young people with good jobs and decent pay may still be in a position where both husband and wife need to work, if they want to save up and buy a house without putting themselves under the huge strain of a big mortgage as is sadly the norm for most people but perhaps an issue for many practising Muslims. Why should male pride get in the way of couples working together as a team both contributing towards building a stable future for their family? I certainly don’t think men who are happy to let their wives work should be made to feel like less of a macho-provider-maintainer just because their wife wants to help out.
Even where there isn’t a financial reason, for many women – Muslim women anyway – work isn’t all about money and status, it’s often about helping people in some way or pursuing a particular passion for something. And personally I think a husband who is supportive and accepting of that is to be commended, since he obviously cares that his wife is happy doing what she wants to do with her life as values her goals as a person in her own right and not just his woman. The only caveat should be the overall well-being of the family not being negatively affected, and taking into consideration any issues arising when children are involved, since they have rights to full and proper care.
As for Ms. Lewis, I don’t think she represents the majority of women, least of all Muslim women. She represents someone who made her life’s big decisions according to one extreme and is now advocating the opposite because it backfired on her. And even then, who is to say she would feel fulfilled if she did have children and a husband, maybe the void in her life is really God? In any case, it’s only card carrying feminists who would actively sacrifice a family in relentless pursuit of career, and I don’t think many Muslim women would do that.
Now I’m going to have my turn and speak on behalf of half the world’s population as well.
I’d say most of us want to find a happy medium where we prioritize whatever we think should take precedence at a particular time in life. If we’re single it might be education, if we’re childless but married it might be work as well as being a wife, if we’re mothers it will probably be our children before anything else. We’d put careers and everything else on hold when need be for our parents, husbands or children. But if or when possible, we’d like to pursue our interests, be that study or working in a particular job, with the support and help of our families. As great as they are, we’d like to contribute something to the world other than babies and good meals, and for some of us, those things are not even possible at all, so having a positive role outside the home is vital to being productive human beings, doing good and benefitting people.
Basically I do think it’s possible to have it all, if the “all” that you want is sensible in the sense that it takes into consideration those close to you and doesn’t cause harm to you or your family in the long run and that’s something everyone has to judge for themselves because everyones family, husband and circumstances are different. I suppose it would be more accurate then to say that I think it’s possible to have a little bit of everything at some point in life.